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 Post subject: Bot Ranks?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:25 pm 
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Recently I've discovered that "Staff Sergeant 1st Class" rank isn't actually final and there are Lieutenants, Captains and others. I suppose I can reach them, but how can I make bots spawn with them too?


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Ranks?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:01 pm 
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Der Hatchet wrote:
Recently I've discovered that "Staff Sergeant 1st Class" rank isn't actually final. There are Lieutenants, Captains and others. I suppose I can reach them, but how can I make bots spawn with them too?


Right now you can't. It's hardcoded in the game that AI spawns randomly with 0.0 - 0.5 authority mapping to 0 - 5000 XP. The problem is mainly that with the current logic, the probability to spawn a soldier with 1000XP and with 9000XP would be exactly same, so there would be an equal amount of low rank soldiers and high rank officers, causing issues with forming squads.

There will be at least some way to influence this in the future versions as vanilla will need it as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Ranks?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:24 pm 
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pasik wrote:
Der Hatchet wrote:
Recently I've discovered that "Staff Sergeant 1st Class" rank isn't actually final. There are Lieutenants, Captains and others. I suppose I can reach them, but how can I make bots spawn with them too?


Right now you can't. It's hardcoded in the game that AI spawns randomly with 0.0 - 0.5 authority mapping to 0 - 5000 XP. The problem is mainly that with the current logic, the probability to spawn a soldier with 1000XP and with 9000XP would be exactly same, so there would be an equal amount of low rank soldiers and high rank officers, causing issues with forming squads.

There will be at least some way to influence this in the future versions as vanilla will need it as well.


Damn, that's bad. Well, okay, thanks for the reply. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Ranks?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:08 am 
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At one point wasn't this limitation not ingame? I swear way back in the day of 0.1X I saw 2nd lieutenant running around, then again it was pretty difficult to find squadmates back then.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Ranks?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:05 am 
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Can't bots gain experience just like players? You can tweak the factions files to allow for all ranks to be reached in single player, see below for what I mean. But basically I've already tested playing starting at like 4500 experience and working up to over 6000 in a match locally and I was granted the Brigadier General title. I'm just not sure if bots rank up in the matches, haven't paid enough attention. :?:

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<rank xp="0.0" name="Private">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank0.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.05" name="Private 1st Class">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank1.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.1" name="Corporal">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank2.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.15" name="Sergeant">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank3.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.2" name="Staff Sergeant">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank4.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.25" name="Staff Sergeant 1st Class">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank5.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.3" name="2nd lieutenant">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank6.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.35" name="Lieutenant">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank7.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.4" name="Captain">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank8.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.45" name="Major">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank9.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.5" name="Lieutenant Colonel">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank10.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.55" name="Colonel">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank11.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.6" name="Brigadier General">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank12.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.7" name="Major General">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank13.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.8" name="Lieutenant General">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank14.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="0.9" name="General">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank15.png" />
</rank>
<rank xp="1.0" name="General of the Army">
<hud_icon filename="hud_rank16.png" />
</rank>


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Ranks?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:11 pm 
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All bots currently spawn with 0 - 5000 XP. They do gain experience, but they don't survive as long as to gain it in significant amounts. Respawning bot is always a completely new one, again getting random starting XP between 0 - 5k.

In 0.95/probably next patch the soldier group within faction -feature will be expanded, so that we can control distribution of bot XP and define very high XP bots to appear in the game very rarely, with special equipment.


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Ranks?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:32 pm 
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pasik wrote:
All bots currently spawn with 0 - 5000 XP. They do gain experience, but they don't survive as long as to gain it in significant amounts. Respawning bot is always a completely new one, again getting random starting XP between 0 - 5k.

In 0.95/probably next patch the soldier group within faction -feature will be expanded, so that we can control distribution of bot XP and define very high XP bots to appear in the game very rarely, with special equipment.


Yes, that sounds really good, or perhaps just persistent bot XP? So each character that starts is the same throughout.


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